Can I buy a used Duke 200

can I buy the 125 second hand?

Hello Thomas,

I myself drive a Duke 125 from 2014 that has run 21,000 km. Older years of construction sometimes have problems with the wiring harness etc., but I am not aware of any problems from the year of construction 2014. Therefore, in my opinion, you could easily fall back on a Duke built in 2014.

In the case of the 125 with the year of construction 2014 etc., the poor initial tires (different from the 390, but I still drove 10,000 kilometers with them) and the chain are criticized. However, both should probably have been fixed on the used machines on the Internet.

As for the condensation in the speedometer. With me is seldom, z. B. in spring when it is cold at night and then in the morning when the sun is shining on it, a little bit of condensation is visible in the speedometer. However, it does not affect the function and disappears again quite quickly. As I said, it seldom occurs and not at all in summer. Since my speedometer has been working perfectly so far, I also assume that everything will continue to fit in the next few years. So should someone believe you !!! assure you that this has not been the case with him in recent years, I would not worry about the speedometer any more.

As far as the running time is concerned, this is of course a really stupid thing. Of course, you can move around the city at low speeds, but normally such a small Duke is really squeezed out by the 15 HP with at least 6000, more likely 8000 revolutions or higher. In addition, a single cylinder usually has lower mileage than z. B. a four-cylinder. I've heard from several mechanics that the maximum running time is 50,000 km. If you look at or other sites, you can see that many people actually manage 50,000 km. But then to want € 2000 for such a machine is a cheek in my opinion. Imagine you pay 2000 € and the engine breaks down for the next 5000 kilometers. Especially when you consider that one z. B. a Honda CBR125f partly for 2800 € NEW !! can buy. Certainly some 125ccs are driven very gently and then the engine will last for a long time, but like many 16 year olds then try wheelies in the school yard, do not run the engine reasonably warm but give full throttle directly, etc.

Even if you're 99% on the country road like me, you're always in the upper third of the speed, so the engine is permanently at full throttle, otherwise you can't keep up with larger machines. So I assume that my Duke should cover 40,000 km if it goes well 50,000, but probably not more. So I would buy a motorcycle between 12,000 and 25,000 km in your place. With offers like "Looks like new, only 2000 km run" and that in 5 years, I would be very skeptical. The machine was often completely neglected. Standing damage may not yet occur depending on how it is stored, since the machine is still relatively new at 5 years of age compared to a z. B. 20-year-old BMW in a barn but you should still look carefully.

In addition, it is possible that the original battery is slowly giving up the ghost, I now have another battery in it. But since the prices for a battery are manageable, it should be bearable. In contrast to the sometimes really outrageously high prices that some charge for their used motorcycle.

But now I've written enough about problems. After all, my Duke has always been my loyal companion for all these years, regardless of the weather, and has really grown dear to me. There are so many memories of her now that I don't want to give them back, even if I already have a major driver's license. I now carry out the inspections myself and simply save on a second, but then larger, machine. So think your son is going to have a lot of fun with her. Neither of my parents ride a motorcycle and wanted me to ride with ABS. Back then, the Duke was the only motorcycle with ABS, so the choice was not made for the MT125, but for the Duke. I already drove it in driving school and accordingly knew what I was getting myself into. I also find the ABS control levels very pleasant. Because the 125cc shares almost everything with the 390 and accordingly has to withstand higher speeds, etc., the components for a 125cc are really really good. Especially in comparison with older 125s, the cornering feel etc. on the little Duke is so great, so you really have to praise KTM. What they set up a few years ago is simply great. In the meantime, however, many other manufacturers have caught up and brought 125 cc on the market. At the Dortmund motorcycle fair, I was really amazed at how many 125ccs there are now. It's crazy if you had this selection at the age of 16, especially since a lot of them now have ABS. (Even if some 125s unfortunately have no ABS, but alternatively only a CBS, i.e. a combination brake which, according to, "activates at least two brakes that act on different wheels by means of a single actuation device".)
What motorcycle did your son ride in driving school?

Oh and as for the size. I'm 190 cm tall and have already been on 400 km tours, basically from morning to evening on the little Duke. After about 300 km on a table, my knees start to hurt a little, but as I said, with breaks and a little walking every now and then, 400 km tours are also possible. However, I would guess that as a novice driver you usually only drive less than 200 km tours anyway. Calculate with an average of a maximum of 60 km / h at the beginning on the country road, even with 200 km with a break you are already on the road for a long time. The question is, what does your son want to do. A friend of mine only drove to school with his 125cc and drove a maximum of 50 km on the country road, so rarely if at all. So if I only drive to school anyway, then in my opinion the size of the machine is enough for the few minutes

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Best regards and success in choosing the right Duke for your son!