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hum - 18.09.13 11:25
A mixture of glycerine and water is used to make natural products such as moss, twigs and the like too durable.
My question: What mixing ratio and how long or short should the natural material bathe in it?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
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# 1 | Preserving natural products
Berndt * - 18.09.13 14:47
I also used this method, but bathed the material for too long. As a result, my stuff got moldy.
Conclusion: Too long is not good. But it can be a couple of hours.
# 2 | Preserving natural products
Taunusbehrle - 18.09.13 14:48
I worked on my trees (meerschaum) as follows: Put equal parts acetone, alcohol and glycerine in a bucket that can be firmly closed. Then put the blanks in and close the lid tightly. After two to three weeks I took the trees out of the bathroom and let them dry off. Put the lid on the mixture again or put the next batch of blanks in the bath. Let the pre-treated trees dry for about a week. Then the foliage can take place.
Unfortunately I cannot add a picture at the moment because I am on vacation and my pictures are saved on a separate disk. However, I can do this later.
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LG from the TauNusbehrle
# 3 | Preserving natural products
hum - 18.09.13 15:01
Thank you both,
that was a start.
In my tree production from the stems of the grapes, I did it with water / glycerin and it worked fine.
But now it's about the well-known reindeer moss. Although I live in Brandenburg, the stuff grows en masse here in the forest. Very filigree and of a light green color. Very suitable for recreating bushes. I could buy it too, but it doesn't cost anything out here. And I also have -bought- leftovers of this Iceland moss that are years old and still very elastic.
Let's see, maybe there will be a tip or two.
# 4 | Preserving natural products
WoKo - 18.09.13 20:40
if I'm not mistaken, "plucking" moss from the forest is not allowed.
# 5 | Preserving natural products
Michael G. - 19.09.13 07:04
small question: is it really necessary to treat dried natural material? Since my childhood I have always processed small branches and so on and nothing has happened to them until today ...
# 6 | Preserving natural products
Jürgen H. - 19.09.13 08:44
Glycerine binds water and prevents it from drying out and becoming brittle.
With historical reindeer moss you can easily see when the effect has waned after decades. It disintegrates when touched.
Preserving means preventing a chemical or biological process, such as mold or bacterial growth.
Glycerine is not suitable for this.
M.M. But it is not necessary at all, since branches or moss do not even live in a normal room climate.
So I would treat moss with glycerine so that it doesn't break and nothing else at all.
# 7 | Preserving natural products
Taunusbehrle - 19.09.13 09:51
Hello Jürgen H.
Acetone removes the moisture from the natural product (in my case meerschaum), glycerine gives the product its suppleness and alcohol is a carrier material
My experience is that the little trees retain their flexibility and therefore do not dry out.
LG from TauNusbehrle
# 8 | Preserving natural products
hum - 19.09.13 19:07
First of all thanks for the replies. You have really packed with knowledge and tips. But unfortunately you didn't read my question correctly, because I still don't have the answer I'm looking for.
So again: make reindeer moss durable with glycerine!
Which mixing ratio with water or pure ????
How long should it be left in the glycerine and should the moss be dried beforehand?
or fresh in the glycerine bath ?????
Storage after treatment in a container that is as airtight as possible ??
I bought a large supply and it will still be installed in the future.
Best regards from the one who came from the forest
Thank you again for your cooperation !!!!!
# 9 | Preserving natural products
p75sa - 19.09.13 20:17
So I found the following information on the net:
Grasses, lichens, herbs, ferns, leaves and flowers should be placed in glycerine and made durable (1 part glycerine, 1 part acetone, 3 parts alcohol) so that they do not absorb humidity and mold. Reindeer lichen (incorrectly called reindeer moss) becomes soft and durable when it is soaked in glycerine.
For the pure use of glycerine and water, the mixing ratio 1: 1 applies.
(I also found the tip to add some "color", since glycerine bleaches the natural substances a little).
In addition, there is the advice to only spray dried natural substances with a clear varnish ... or to treat wood / branches with a glue-water mixture (ratio 1: 1)
Hopefully these are the answers you are looking for
LG from Innsbruck
# 10 | Preserving natural products
hum - 20.09.13 15:13
these are the answers I was looking for.
But all other information was also useful. Thanks again to everyone!
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